MyEdgyAlt 2d ago • 100%
This is certainly better, but it’s unclear to me whether this item:
Denying the right of Jews in the State of Israel to exist and flourish, collectively and individually, as Jews, in accordance with the principle of equality.
…implies that denying the legitimacy of the state of Israel is antisemitic. While I would have been in favor of a two state solution in the past, the genocidal mania of the apartheid state has led me to conclude that two states alone is insufficient, even with monetary reparations, and justice after the recent level of atrocity perpetrated by Israel might require granting Palestinians full government control of the land.
Ah! When we go to the questions further down:
Guideline 10 says it is antisemitic to deny the right of Jews in the State of Israel “to exist and flourish, collectively and individually, as Jews”. Isn’t this contradicted by guidelines 12 and 13?
There is no contradiction. The rights mentioned in guideline 10 attach to Jewish inhabitants of the state, whatever its constitution or name. Guidelines 12 and 13 clarify that it is not antisemitic, on the face of it, to propose a different set of political or constitutional arrangements.
Ok, this is a MUCH better definition. Thank you for sharing it.
MyEdgyAlt 3d ago • 96%
Careful, per the IHRA definition of antisemitism, when one says:
As the descendant of a survivor of a genocide, the Holocaust, I refuse to be a bystander to another genocide
they might be antisemitic:
Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
This is the definition adopted by the United States.
MyEdgyAlt 7d ago • 87%
Seems like this was a result of Israeli arrogance, assuming it crashed or was shot down rather than recognizing that they aren’t the only ones with effective munitions.
They could choose to take this as a sign that war isn’t the path to safety, or that they just need to also depopulate Lebanon to bring safety. I think it’s obvious which they’ll do, of course.
Some excerpts: > An initial probe into the attack indicated that two drones launched by Hezbollah entered Israeli airspace from the sea, the Times of Israel learned. > Both were tracked by Israeli radars, and one was shot down off the coast north of Haifa. Sirens sounded in the western Galilee area. > IAF planes and helicopters pursued the second drone, but it dropped off the radar and Israeli forces lost track of it, likely because it flew very close to the ground. No siren sounded because the assumption was that it had crashed or been intercepted once it disappeared. Times of Israel used as a source because other coverage so far is on “live” pages which are difficult to link to.
www.cnn.com
> “At around 4:30 a.m., while peacekeepers were in shelters, two IDF Merkava tanks destroyed the position’s main gate and forcibly entered the position. … > In addition to its position being breached, UNIFIL also said 15 of its soldiers are receiving treatment after another incident in the same area. > “At around 6:40 a.m., peacekeepers at the same position reported the firing of several rounds 100 metres north, which emitted smoke. Despite putting on protective masks, fifteen peacekeepers suffered effects, including skin irritation and gastrointestinal reactions, after the smoke entered the camp,” the statement read, without indicating who had fired the rounds. Separately, [Al Jazeera reports](https://aje.io/epfyox?update=3243996): > The United Nations says Israeli tanks burst through the gates of its peacekeeping force base in southern Lebanon after three platoons of Israeli soldiers crossed the Blue Line. > The UN peacekeepers said in a statement at 4:30am (01:30 GMT), two Israeli army Merkava tanks “destroyed” their main gate and “forcibly entered the position” while peacekeepers were asleep. > “The tanks left about 45 minutes later after UNIFIL protested through our liaison mechanism, saying [the Israeli military] presence was putting peacekeepers in danger,” it said. > At 6:40am (03:40 GMT), peacekeepers reported several rounds being fired about 100 metres (328 feet) north of their position in what appeared to be an attack with some sort of chemical agent. > “Despite putting on protective masks, 15 peacekeepers suffered effects including skin irritation and gastrointestinal reactions after the smoke entered the camp. The peacekeepers are receiving treatment.” Since the second article’s headline was more descriptive, I used it for this post’s title.
MyEdgyAlt 1w ago • 100%
(Short excerpt of the long section clarifying that it’s a war crime)
MyEdgyAlt 1w ago • 100%
I don’t think pretending October 7th is the start of history is fair, though. Any discussion of October 7th needs to explore why people might become so angry as to take the actions taken on that day. It didn’t happen in a vacuum; it takes a lot to make people do that to other people.
MyEdgyAlt 1w ago • 100%
Ah yes, we should make sure whenever we discuss Israeli atrocities that we explain why they are justified in doing what they do to the people whose land they stole and continue to steal. It’s purely reasonable self defense by innocents, don’t ya know!
www.bbc.com
Excerpts w/emphasis added: > “Since we already encircled the northern part of Gaza in the past nine or 10 months, what we should do is the following thing to tell all the 300,000 residents [that the UN estimates is 400,000] who still live in the northern part of Gaza that they have to leave this area and they should be given 10 days to leave through safe corridors that Israel will provide. > "And after that time, all this area will become to be a military zone. And all the Hamas people will still, though, **whether some of them are fighters, some of them are civilians**… will have two choices either to surrender or to starve." > Eiland wants Israel to seal the areas once the evacuation corridors are closed. **Anyone left behind would be treated as an enemy combatant.** The area would be under siege, with the army blocking all supplies of food, water or other necessities of life from going in. … > It is not clear whether the IDF has adopted the Generals' Plan in part or in full, but the circumstantial evidence of what is being done in Gaza suggests it is at the very least a strong influence on the tactics being used against the population. The BBC submitted a list of questions to the IDF, which were not answered. > The ultra-nationalist extremists in Benjamin Netanyahu’s cabinet want to replace Palestinians in northern Gaza with Jewish settlers. Among many statements he’s made on the subject, the finance minister Bezalel Smotrich has said “Our heroic fighters and soldiers are destroying the evil of Hamas, and **we will occupy the Gaza Strip… to tell the truth, where there is no settlement, there is no security.**”
MyEdgyAlt 1w ago • 100%
It is deleted; what did it say?
MyEdgyAlt 1w ago • 88%
Probably for as long as the US support is unconditional.
MyEdgyAlt 1w ago • 100%
Is this a reference to the IDF’s murder of Irish peacekeeper Dermot McLaughlin in 1987, or something else?
aje.io
Sorry for the poor links to Al Jazeera’s live page. > Lebanon’s National News Agency is reporting that several Sri Lankan peacekeepers have been injured in another Israeli attack targeting the UN Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) headquarters in southern Lebanon. > The report said an Israeli Merkava tank targeted one of UNIFIL’s observation towers on the main road connecting Tyre to Naqoura, in front of a Lebanese Army checkpoint, injuring the Sri Lankan contingent stationed there. > It said Israeli artillery fired a shell that struck the main entrance of the UNIFIL command centre in Naqoura, causing damage to the site. To clarify, after wounding two Indonesian UN peacekeepers yesterday, Israel has attacked the UN again injuring Sri Lankan UN peacekeepers.
MyEdgyAlt 1w ago • 100%
Funny how countries that have experienced brutality call it when they see it.
www.bbc.co.uk
Apologies for modifying the title. The live page has terrible article titles. > The government-run Lebanese Civil Defence emergency service says the five workers were waiting in a makeshift centre in a church hall in the southern town of Derdghaiya when it was hit by an Israeli air strike. We've spoken to Father Maurice Khoury, head of the St George'sCatholic parish church there, who says those killed were "a model for humanity and chivalry. They sacrificed their lives for the wellbeing of others". Per other linked articles, Israel seems to claim they killed two Hezbollah members, but I haven’t found a single article that contains all the information in one place. [This post](https://old.reddit.com/r/lebanon/comments/1g0ejss/israel_bombed_a_church_in_derdghaiya/) from that other place has a purported picture of the damaged church.
MyEdgyAlt 1w ago • 100%
A newer live update from BBC reports:
In 2006, during the last major confrontation, a UN Observation Position (OP) came under Israeli artillery and aerial bombardment. Despite repeated appeals to the IDF to stop firing, throughout 25 July, the OP on the outskirts of the village of Khiam was finally destroyed. Four UN military observers from Austria, Canada, China and Finland were killed. Israel’s ambassador to the US, Danny Ayalon, said “Unifil obviously got caught in the middle", and suggested that the deadly fire could have come from Hezbollah. A UN investigation concluded that the base had been destroyed by a 500kg precision-guided bomb dropped by an Israeli warplane.
Israel has been doing this for ages.
MyEdgyAlt 1w ago • 100%
Unfortunately it has happened before.
apologize.lol
Why you should know? Money.
www.bbc.co.uk
> Two UN peacekeepers have been injured after an Israeli tank fired towards a watchtower at a UN base in southern Lebanon, the UN says. > According to a statement by the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL), the observation tower at its headquarters in Naqoura was directly hit, causing the peacekeepers to fall. > "The injuries are fortunately, this time, not serious, but they remain in hospital," the UN says. > It adds that Israeli soldiers also fired at a UN base in Ras Naqoura, "hitting the entrance to the bunker where peacekeepers were sheltering, and damaging vehicles and a communications system". > There's more in their statement which we'll bring you shortly. > UNIFIL is a UN peacekeeping mission created in 1978. It monitors hostilities and helps to ensure humanitarian access to civilians.
MyEdgyAlt 2w ago • 94%
This article was written in 2022 and updated in 2023. Maybe a community like Today I Learned would be a better fit?
www.aljazeera.com
> In several cases, they accused senior newsroom figures of failing to hold Israeli officials to account and of interfering in reporting to downplay Israeli atrocities. In one instance at CNN, false Israeli propaganda was put on air despite advance warnings from staff members.
MyEdgyAlt 2w ago • 100%
They may have forgotten that unlike Gaza where they can plausibly-ish claim that everything remotely governmental was technically Hamas, that isn’t the case in Lebanon.
MyEdgyAlt 4w ago • 100%
So you’re choosing the Netanyahu fanzine to increase the chance that Zionists don’t dismiss the story out of hand?
Yes. My powers are limited, so I do what little I can.
MyEdgyAlt 4w ago • 100%
Not that your claim was hard to believe, but because I like being well-sourced, I looked it up and you’re correct:
Most prefer to be identified as Palestinian citizens of Israel.[8][9][10] International media outlets often use the term "Arab-Israeli" or "Israeli-Arab" to distinguish Israel's Arab citizens from the Palestinian Arabs residing in the Israeli-occupied territories.[11]
Seems like international media should find a better label for them.
MyEdgyAlt 4w ago • 100%
I originally found it on Al Jazeera’s live coverage, which is difficult to link to. I only later found a second source, which I used. I never came across Haaretz’s coverage. I probably would have still chosen Times of Israel because “Israeli evil” coverage is less common from them than from Haaretz; I would imagine more Zionists read Times of Israel than Haaretz or they’d already care about Palestinian lives.
> A 13-year-old girl was suspended from school last week after she expressed concern for Palestinian children in Gaza during a class discussion on Hamas’s October 7 massacre, according to Hebrew media reports. > According to Channel 12 News, when it was her turn to speak, the girl, a member of the Arab Bedouin community, mentioned that innocent children were killed in Gaza. “There are hungry children in Gaza, there are children without a home,” she reportedly said during the discussion. > Following a heated incident after the class in which dozens of other students cursed the girl and threw things at her, she was suspended for three days. > She also said that since October 7, students have repeatedly asked her if she supports the Hamas terror group because she wears a hijab headscarf. > “The students started telling me: ‘Our soldiers are not murderers,’ even though I didn’t say that… and others cursed me,” the girl told Haaretz. “They asked me if I supported Palestine, and I said no and that I only support the small children in Gaza returning to their homes.” … > Ibn Bari charged that the school’s decision to suspend the girl was “extreme and even illegal,” adding that the other students had chanted, “May your village burn,” and accused her of disrespecting Israel Defense Force troops serving in Gaza after she expressed concern for Palestinian children.
MyEdgyAlt 4w ago • 100%
Brauchst du mehr Lebensraum?
Edit: sorry, I misunderstood your post. You’re not calling Al Jazeera lying press, you’re noticing the similarities between Nazi propaganda and Israeli propaganda.
www.aljazeera.com
While this article doesn’t mention it (yet), their Live coverage does mention that the soldiers also tore down and destroyed images of Shireen Abu Akleh, the Al Jazeera journalist murdered by Israeli soldiers in 2022.
www.aljazeera.com
You’d think eventually Israel’s enablers (us Americans, Brits, and Europeans) would realize Israel’s actions are motivating more and more war and we’d stop kowtowing to Netanyahu. Have we not already collected enough data on how effective our various munitions are at blowing off children’s limbs? It probably won’t happen until the people who confuse Netanyahu with Anne Frank are out of power.
> The German political establishment has abandoned the belief that the Holocaust gave it a responsibility to humanity and replaced it with a responsibility to Israel alone.
www.bbc.com
> “Senior members of the Israeli government and military have expressed open genocidal intent, Israeli soldiers take videos deliberately burning, destroying and looting civilian property,” he wrote. “Whole streets and universities have been demolished, humanitarian aid is being blocked and civilians are regularly left with no safe quarter to flee to. Red Crescent ambulances have been attacked, schools and hospitals are regularly targeted. These are War Crimes.” He said there was “no justification for the UK's continued arms sales to Israel”.
www.bbc.com
(Israel’s influence is insane)